Been waiting for someone to make decent winter shoes for flat pedals. A few friends have the Fives but were disappointed with the waterproofing. The MT500’s have a flap over the lacing system like my old Shiamano’s which I loved. They are true to size, comfortable and warm. Paired with Dexshell waterproof socks and Endura MT500 pants had a ride in probably the wettest conditions I’ve ever ridden in. After the ride my feet were dry and warm. Game changer!!!